RE: FLASH: Flash - barrier to entry?

[Kyron]

A side note, and I don't know how accurate this is but if you go to


http://www.statmarket.com/browsers.html


you can see an estimate of the plugin breakdown.  They are listing MSIE 4.X

at 57%.


Brian


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From: ownershocker [dot] com [ownershocker [dot] com]On">mailto:ownershocker [dot] com]On Behalf Of Daniel

> Votino

> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 1999 7:48 PM

>

To: flashershocker [dot] com

> Subject: Re: FLASH: Flash - barrier to entry?

>

>

> Happy New Year to all.

>

> I am new to this list.  Have been reading all your great questions and

> answers.  Now I have one myself.  I have a strange anomoly perhaps someone

> here has encountered and might be able to explain?

>

> On a fresh install the other day of Windows 98 I went to a Flash 3 site I

> designed . . . www.thesurefoundation.org and got a blank blue screen.

> I was attempting to view it through IE 4.  It is viewable on all other

> computers in my office with both Netscape and IE.  It has always seemed to

> load correctly when being the first internet visit of new

> computers for this

> project.

>

> So I then went to www.olympic.org to see if it just wasn't calling for the

> Active X file correctly.  Th olympic site worked but I noticed it did not

> use an Active X.  It must have been Java since there was still no Active X

> program downloaded to my windows directory for Shock.

>

> I then tried Macromedia's site and it gave me the standard html

> site and not

> the flashed site as it does normally if you dont have shock installed.

>

> So I tried www.beatstream.com where it proceeded to download the Active X

> file for me.  I then went back to the site I designed and it worked.  So I

> then took the downloaded Active X file out of my windows directory and

> again, went to the site I had worked on.  It then proceeded to

> download the

> Active X file again and worked fine.

>

> Any takers?

> Thank you,

>

> Daniel

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

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From: dickson chow <dicksonswanky [dot] org>

>

To: flashershocker [dot] com <flashershocker [dot] com>

> Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 1:40 PM

> Subject: Re: FLASH: Flash - barrier to entry?

>

>

> >Just a little info, Windows 98 comes with the flash/shockwave plugins and

> >Netscape 4.5 comes with the flash plugin also.

> >

> >Matt Irwin wrote:

> >

> >> >

> >> >Hi everyone,

> >> >

> >> >I just joined the list today and I have what I hope is a simple

> >> question.

> >> >

> >> >I'm reasonably new to Flash and have had the opportunity to bid on a

> >> couple

> >> >of jobs.  The most recent of which I was turned down because they said

> >> that

> >> >Flash had too much of a "barrier to entry".

> >> >

> >> >Basically I was supposed to create an animated menu system for a site.

> >> The

> >> >barrier, according to the client, was the plug-in issue.

> >> >

> >> >Can anyone point me to any good articles that could bolster

> my position

> >> when

> >> >this issue comes up again?  I did some research and found some numbers

> >> on

> >> >the amount of 3.0 and 4.0+ browsers out there, but I think it would be

> >> good

> >> >if I had more information about ease of installation, file size

> >> advantages,

> >> >Flash as an open standard, etc. etc.

> >> >

> >> >Thanks!

> >> >

> >> >Paul

> >> >

> >>

> >> Hey,

> >>

> >>   I can't provide you with any articles I can think of, but as I'm sure

> >> you know Flash is very well distributed.  My solution, as others have

> >> posted, would be to use a Flash detection script and some form of

> >> alternate image w/ an image map.  Aftershock will generate this code,

> >> which is ok, but it never seems to make the image right (at least in my

> >> version) so I export images straight from flash.  While Aftershock does

> >> work, I would recommend writing or getting a better script yourself

> >> because the code I've gotten from aftershock has done some weird stuff.

> >> I also wanted to point out you can write script that will install the

> >> plug-in when people come to the site, I know this works with IE,

> >> although I'm not sure about Netscape, and Aftershock will do this as

> >> well.  I hope this is some fuel for your fire, or future fires.

> >>

> >> Matt Irwin

>

>> matttechnomarketing [dot] com

>

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> >>

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