Re: ISP needs Flash site,-chance for exposure

[Wayne Townsend]

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SUBJECT: Things about: Pricing, Pro-Bono Work, AirShows, FireWorks, and the

4th of July. and birtdays too.


FROM:

dgarystudiosnetwide [dot] net

 (David Gary)

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W:

>> In the "real" world, it happens all the time, and also in many different

>> media types.  Has for years.  It's a gamble that sometimes pays off.  That

>> *is* the reality.


D:

>Creating *free* work for commercial entities has never paid as long as Ive

>been

>in the freelance business and I'll still discourage any artist from doing

>pro-bono

>

>for profit organizations.


W:

How long is that?


D:

>Indeed! Charge what you please, just charge. Do work, get paid, give a

>reciept,

>its an industry,lets keep it that way.

>Again, as I said the guild is created mostly to protect the best interest

>of the

>artist usually on legal

>matters more than it is a pricing guide.

>

>goto www.gag.org to read about it.


W:

Ok, I will.  But I'll still do it my way.



D:

>Indeed your work needs to be seen. Any amateur here can call the ISP they

>have an

>accountwith and get free server space to show off their work. If your ISP wont

>give you the space then

>drop the account because most will.


W:

thank you for agreeing, and don't you adree that w/...then, isn't turnabout

fair play?...


D:

>I would advise any amateur starting out to

>create for

>you own benifit and not the benefit of a profit organization. The more times a

>company can get free

>work by a amateur _or_ pro it hurts all of us and starts to set a standard

>than

>none of us here want.


...and...


>ISP is not the golden bucket when it comes to exposure. The point is that more

>andmore companies are using this technique to get free work that they can

>perfectly

>pay for. It hurts the integrity of our standard, period. If you do quality

>work

>for a

>reasonable price you will get business. You dont need any ISP's homepage

>promoting

>your

>"free" work.


W:

>> In fact, if our ISP decides that they want a Flashed homepage, I'd

>> probably do it for them in a heart-beat.


D:

>Thats your choice, but its a fact that you would also be degrading our

>standard.


W: No, I would be upgrading it.  Somebody told me once, "That's what you

do, Wayne".  I still remember that compliment; but I digress...


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D:

>Well your an angel in disguise and a great guy for doing that, but this is

>going

>way off the subject.


W:

No, we all are, and no it isn't.  It's an isue that is important to the

entire group.  BTW: Free Talk is encouraged on this thread. -at least by me.


D:

>It seems here that this would be a chance to take someone

>else's work and promote yourself with it. Theres your "payoff".


W:

Yes, correct Dave.  Good observation.  I pull an experienced and talented

MMdeveloper's ass out of the economic fire, pull them up onto the web; help

them rebuild their hardware and software, and for that, I get to attach the

WebStaffing. Net name to the conversion from CD to Web.   It's nothing

really.  Just like sticking a WebStaffing.Net logo on the side of a race

car.


I may not have paper money flowing into my hand at this time from deals

like these; but in this deal, webstaffing.net AND Digifilm are both winning.


Is there some reason I shouldn't get credit for that my part in the success

story?



W: Final:

Well, I'm off now to enjoy the month.  This is a good rest time here in

America.  But I'm usually on line at the addresses in my sig.


PPS: thx, judy


/w


Wayne Townsend

WebStaffing.Net, Dallas, TX. USA

waynetTopher [dot] Net (mailto:waynetTopher [dot] Net)

wayneWebStaffing [dot] Net (mailto:wayneWebStaffing [dot] Net)

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