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Subject: UKNM: Fulfilment hell
From: kwhittaker
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:51:11 +0100

Hi all,
you may have noticed recently that at the bottom of all postings into
this list there is an ad for ukaffiliates, so the following may be "biting
the hand that feeds us" but so be it.

I recently contacted this company as I am shortly to launch my companies
.co.uk website. I am positively sources different marketing outlets. To this
end I emailed ukaffiliates and recieved a quick response, followed by a
visit from a young man called Stephen. he was veery pleasant, well presented
and had clearly been well trained. He delivered his "pitch" very
competantly, and as someone who has spent most of my time training people
how to sell, I recognised most of the signals. I am not adverse to people
trying to sell me things I just view it as pointless, if I want to buy
something ,I buy it, if I don`t, I won`t.I am however always wary when the
price is held back as if it is something to be worried about. When I was
told the price ( just shy of �3000 )for the basic service, I was very
shocked. I just could not figure out what I was paying for. As an affiliates
company they recieve a % of each and every transaction. I recieved some
extra inducements to "sugar the pill" which included exposure to "our US
partners",Commission junction.

I was told that ukaffiliates had 10,000 such affiliates all waiting with
bated breath for the right products which would then be matched etc, etc.
Great I said, "can I see the list of affiliates ?" This seemed like a
reasonable request to me, apparently not, I would need his bosses
authorisation for this. So we left it that his boss would be in touch.

In the meantime I decided to have a look at Commission Junction for myself.
They offered a very similar deal with demonstable affiliates for $795, a big
difference, for a lot more, so far as I could see.
Anyway being a patriotic sort I decided I would offer ukaffiliates my
business if they matched the US offer. I contacted Stephen from UKA who told
me his boss would like to see me. A meeting was arranged.Unfortunately I was
delayed back from a trip from Sweden but I did send an email to Stephen
asking hoim to reset the meeting for later in the week.

I was not contacted, so I called again and I was told that the director,
someone called Fox would call me back. He didn`t and unbelievably I called
again, Fox was still very busy apparently and 1 week later has still not
managed to call back. I get very, very pissed off when people do not return
emails or phone calls, particually when I am trying to give them money.

So to conclude I have some questions for Fox of Uk affiliates;
1. Why are UK companies expected top pay nearly 7 times the price of US
companies ?
2. Why cannot potential advertisers see the list of potential affiliates?
3. Why don`t you answer your messages?

Maybe I am missing something here but if you decide to sponsor a list such
as UKNM then presumably you see the members as a good source for business, I
am very puzzled by your actions.

Regards Keith Whittaker
Startingpost.com


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